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It becomes tiresome to hear PO referred to as "the liberal party". Apparently, we feel the need to attach some more labels to our pretty shiny parties.

How can you call a party that starsmy beloved Rokita "liberal"? If we stretch the muscles of our imagination we just might call it "conservative-liberal", as senseless as it is. But "liberal"?

I find myself liking Ms Gilowska (Ms "I used to be in PO but they accused me of nepotism so I quit and now PiS asked me to become the Vice-Prime Minister that keeps all the State's money so hell yes!"). Despite the fact that "changing the political orientation is stranger than changing the sexual one". She sounds somewhat reasonable and she has a great point about wasted money. The small problem is, we'll never stop the wasting of money until the government gives their control up to the lower-standing organisations and local powers. NGOs, anyone?

Bon Mot of the Week:

Kazimierz Marcinkiewicz: "We know that zloty is strong. But today, we decide to be stronger."

And just a second ago, Marek Jurek: I warn you that I do have a sense of humour..."

ETA: Oh. My. God.

Apparently matters are getting hot and PiS starts to say it's either a coallition or new election. A new election may very well mean PiS taking everything.

Scary.

And I finished my Martin. Oh, I did. Oh, the dragons, the dragons and Brienne! And Sansa :)

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Date: 2006-01-11 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
and now we sit and wait for more martin... *Yearns*

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Date: 2006-01-11 08:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] novin-ha.livejournal.com
Yes! Yearn, yearn. Yearn some more.

I so need to know what happens to Brienne next. And if Davos is really dead. And what I Jaime going to do, and Sansa and....

*Bites nails*

*Visits her favourite Polish Ice&Fire Forum*

*Waits some more*

I feel better when I know that soon "Lions of Al-Rassan" by GG Kay are to be published in Poland. I'll get me Mum to buy them for us. We are both Martin and Kay fans :)

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Date: 2006-01-11 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
and everything?

*waits*

*watches tv*

*waits some more*

Yeah, there is a lot more stuff to read... I just want to know

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Date: 2006-01-11 09:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] novin-ha.livejournal.com
I want to know, too...

*Kills some time discussing why Sansa is cool*

*The new Martin is Still Not There!*

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Date: 2006-01-11 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
*kills more time stressing about whether Brienne is really dead*

*still no new Martin*

*Kills more time wondering what is going to happen to Stannis when Dany returns*

*still no new Martin*

Supposedly it's going to be soon though... since he like already wrote it.

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Date: 2006-01-11 10:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] novin-ha.livejournal.com
Yeah, but we know him - it will take AGES! Next year, I think it's said to be published. Or late this year.

Brienne cannot be dead. Period.

And Stannis... I need some Stannis.

Dany is teh one ;) And she needs two other Targaryens!

*No new Martin*

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Date: 2006-01-11 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
Yeah, in his afternote he said "next year" but "hopefully" meaning maybe not.

I seriously can't wait to find out about Dany and Stannis and Jon and Davos.

*whines in impatience*

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Date: 2006-01-11 10:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] novin-ha.livejournal.com
Let's whine together ;)

Except I can wait about Jon ;)

*Evil Jon Hater*

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Date: 2006-01-11 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
Yes. We will just not discuss Jon for the sake of the solidarity of our whining.

I was sad they killed Maester Aemon...the gentle Taergean

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Date: 2006-01-12 12:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] novin-ha.livejournal.com
Yes, it was sad. I also hope Podrick will somehow survive, even though that seems even less likely than for Brienne to survive...

And Jaime's conversation with Edmure Tully was great :)

*Still. No. New. Martin.*

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Date: 2006-01-12 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lodessa.livejournal.com
*checks again*
Actually I think they'd be more likely to let Podrick go... but Brienne is a more important character.

Awww... I am like totally in love with Jaime these days.

I also was sad we didn't get to see more of the Sand Snakes.

*Still no new Martin*

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Date: 2006-01-12 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallingfortruth.livejournal.com
I still don't understand why 'liberal' is a bad word. What's wrong with progressive, exactly?

It confuses little old Liberal me.

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Date: 2006-01-12 12:31 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] novin-ha.livejournal.com
Actually I am a conservative - but reeeal one, not American or Polish variation ;)

It's a bad word here because it makes no sense. PO could be said to follow neo-liberalism as in, an economic doctrine. But neo-liberalism, monetarism, all that jazz, was also popular with Thatcher's government and geez, were they liberals? Liberal party and liberal opinion on economics is two different things :)

Oh, I think if people knew what the conservative doctrine states, they'd all be conservatists ;) First - Thou shalt not change people to fit your idea. Sate is for the people, not the other way round. All changes should be inflicted slowly and carefully because the results are never certain. Don't fix something that works.

That's conservative doctrine :) That's what being right-wing should bloody mean. That's my beloved Rokita ;)

So PO is right-wing-to-the-center-semi-liberal. Not liberal. A difference. Right there. OMG. Now that is strange ;)

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Date: 2006-01-12 12:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] novin-ha.livejournal.com
Oh, and the wrong thing about liberal (other than, half-true so a whole lie) is, liberals have never won the election here. Left-wing - yes, and a number of times. But they never called themselves 'liberals'. Actually, they used conservative mottos. "Return to normalcy".

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Date: 2006-01-12 12:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] novin-ha.livejournal.com
And, liberal and progressive shouldn't be used as synonyms! And progress isn't always good! To quote an old communist saying (that's a real quote!) "Before the war Poland stood on the edge of a cliff. We took a big step forward!"

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